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  • Victoria
    October 12, 2012
    Auburn, Australia
    Received a call from this number today. The lady was asking me to confirm my date of birth and address. Guess this company is trying to collect our details and then sell it some marketing company. When I gave my dob and address she informed me that she would give me a call at a later stage as she was not sure if she was speaking to the right person. This company seems to have our contact number and name. However,it does not seem to have our dob and address. This is their way of collecting our address and dob.
  • Better than them
    July 1, 2015
    Debt Collector
    Manassas, United States
    The relentless but rather boring Lyeing Finance debt collectors.
    Answer the phone, who's calling, then say from which company, oh it's a private matter they say, you then say oh we don't give personal info over the phone, then say put anything in writing you scamming twxts THEY NEVER DO!
  • Kimberley
    June 30, 2015
    Perth, Australia
    Some of the recent comments about this number tie in with my experience today, which involved a caller asking for information about a neighbour. On 30 May, a comment from blajo mentioned problems with calls from Panthera and from Lion Finance. Again this ties in because we received a call from Lion Finance (03) 9610 4585) on 22 May asking about the same neighbour. I will be phoning Telstra's unwelcome calls number 1800 805 996) and arranging to have calls from both of these numbers blocked.
  • Fiona
    June 9, 2015
    Debt Collector
    Queensland, Australia
    Got a call on my mobile looking for someone with the sme name as my husband. They then called him and he is very wary with giving out details. He eventually agreed to give the date of birth and they said sorry wrong person. This is the second time this company have called. We don't have any debt, feels sneaky tho, I feel sorry for people under this sort of pressure.
  • blajo
    May 30, 2015
    Debt Collector
    Moyhu, Australia
    I am a victim of identity theft as someone opened a mobile phone account with Telstra and another with Optus using my drivers licence details on line and had bills sent to a non-existent address. I was first approached by Panthera finance about Telstra account and then Lion Finance about Optus. I now have discovered that these companies are run by the same people. I made a statutory declaration with the Police, which stopped Panthera's constant calls. However Lion Finance continue to call me demanding payment . After about 50 calls, someone who unusually didn't have an Asian accent , said they would look into the matter and get back to me. Had a phone call today stating that they were prepared to make me an offer of a final settlement, which was about 25% of the original claim. However they got the same answer I always give them. As this is not my account and as I have filed a statutory statement with the police. I will not be making any payment for a debt I don't have. I am now beginning to wonder, who the real scammers are the person who fraudulently used my drivers licence details, or the company pursuing me for money I don't owe.
  • j baker
    May 19, 2015
    Debt Collector
    Constitution Hill, Australia
    either spam or a debt collecto

  • j baker
    May 19, 2015
    Debt Collector
    Constitution Hill, Australia
    seems like a collec tion agency
  • Anonymous
    May 19, 2015
    Debt Collector
    Constitution Hill, Australia
    seems like a colle tion agency
  • Ex Lion Finance
    May 11, 2015
    Melbourne, Australia
    Hi I used to work for this mob but I left them after a week. They are trained to say a number of things that are not legal. And they make a fortune buying debt at a few cents to the dollar and theny chasing up the debtors.

    Here is how you handle their calls- Dont Answer a number you dont know. A genuine person will leave a message. Lion will most cases. If they do they will ask to call back quoting a reference number. Dont call back.
    Next they will try through individual mobile numbers to trick you into answering the call. Again the same rule. Dont answer a number you dont know.

    Then here is the zinger: There is a free app called TruCaller in the itunes store. Download the app and enter the mobile number and it will tell you who is calling. Then you go and block that number.
    Lion Finance also calls from numbers that show up as Panther Finance on TruCaller.

    While I am all in favour of people paying their debts on time there are instances when they have difficult circumstances and need grace. However my view is that if someone like Lion or Panther Finance has purchased the debt and is trying to make massive profit sometimes 10 times what they paid for it then I think they should be told to get stuffed. Simply dont pay Lion Finance. Let them take people to court. THey will go bankrupt trying to do so if they have to do it for hundreds or thousands of debtors. And the best part is that after court they will get nothing..So screw them
  • Freeman
    May 4, 2015
    Campbellfield, Australia
    Extortionists, beware..
  • It's Not Personal
    May 1, 2015
    New South Wales, Australia
    No doubt you would have heard all sorts of rubbish statements like "be a grown up and pay your debts", blah blah blah. It is your job as a debt carrier to do everything in your power to legally minimise or completely absolve your debt. It is not personal, it's business and all of the institutions borrowing and collecting money do not give a second thought to minimising their obligations regardless of any moral consequences.
  • Moron Debt Collectors Justifying Their Existence
    March 20, 2015
    Debt Collector
    Brisbane, Australia
    Hey "Morons", get your facts straight. You see, some of us actually look at the legal websites to find out what debt collectors can or cannot do. And they all state, you cannot tell debtors you can take their possessions, unless you tell them that you can do so only with a court order - BET YOU DON'T DO THAT!!!! Only the Sheriff can do that - unless the debt is secured at which time the secured lender can re-posses after the requisite legal steps have been undertaken. You also cannot encourage debtors to make their debt situation worse by getting other loans to pay your loan. You also cannot harass or threaten, of which Lion do both.

    I have done numerous searches on Lion and it seems their behaviour towards people is absolutely appalling, even when you try to pay your debt. After reading how they treat people, I would not even bother to have any contact with them unless I could make a settlement offer. I would probably go back to the original lender first and see what can be done with them.

    I suggest anyone with a problem with Lion Finance (of which there seems to be a lot) download a document from ASIC called "Regulatory Guide 96: Debt Collection Guidelines for Collectors and Creditors" - it is good reading and sets out everyone's responsibilities and rights.

    Basically, I am sick to death of debt collectors believing that "anything goes" in order to get money back.
  • Sick of Moron Debt Collectors
    March 20, 2015
    Debt Collector
    Brisbane, Australia
    Get your facts straight "Morons". Look at the bankruptcy legislation - it only lasts for 3 years, but is kept on record for another 4. It is a permanent record at ITSA if someone ever bothers to look. The only time bankruptcy lasts for more than 3 years is if your trustee applies to the court to extend that period. You can also have borrowings up to $2,000 during your bankruptcy and own a car worth approx. $7,000. If you are going to go bankrupt, you generally either have no assets to lose or your debts are so out of whack with your assets that it doesn't matter. You can also travel overseas with your trustees permission.

    Also, after your bankruptcy you can borrow (I have clients who now have home loans etc and have come out of bankruptcy) and you can also become a company director. Also, your record of bankruptcy disappears from the credit reporting agency reports after the 5 years that all defaults etc are on there. I have clients who went bankrupt, came out of it, had to borrow money about a year after ending their bankruptcy and were told they had a clean credit report - their bankruptcy wasn't even on there anymore..

    So go away, Moron, or should I say debt collector moron. Some of us actually deal with these issues every day and get professional advice ie. from solicitors, not debt collectors or their bottom dwelling companies.
  • David
    March 20, 2015
    Hawthorn, Australia
    What a load of sh*te
  • Eudoxia
    March 19, 2015
    Sydney, Australia
    Victoria don't give your DOB to anybody! How do you know who's calling? Did you ask them to identify themselves first? There are such things as adhesion contracts particularly in regard to debt collectors who HAVE NO CONTRACT with you, therefore you are under no obligation to do anything they tell you unless they can prove they have a claim against you. Never admit to being your name = your birth certificate name in all caps. This is the corporate fiction identity, the STRAWMAN - google it and do some research it will hold you in good stead.
  • Morons
    March 18, 2015
    Fortitude Valley, Australia
    Lion Finance do not use Facebook to harass people. It is completely legal for them to ask you to try and source funds either through consolidation loans, redraws, or loans of a personal nature including family. It is also completely legal for them to deny you an arrangement to pay off your debt if you refuse to provide a statement of position or if your statement of position shows that you have the funds to pay off your debt. Also, depending on the laws of your state, they can DEFINITELY tell you they can repossess your possessions - this is completely correct and legal with a court order. You do not need to sign a contract with Lion Finance for the debt to be owing to them and be in a legally binding contract - if you took the time to read your ORIGINAL loan contract you will see that they have the right to sell your debt at any time, and you will legally owe all funds borrowed + any accrued or future interest to the buyer of the debt, in this case Lion Finance. It is called a unilateral change to your contract, so those saying that you don't owe anything to them because you haven't signed a contract with them - you're wrong.

    Lion Finance will leave messages, but due to privacy laws they are unable to advise where they are calling from. If you give them your work # but you're not at your desk, and your colleague answers your phone, would you really like them to tell your colleague that they're calling from a collection agency? I don't think so. Even if it wouldn't matter to you, it is not only their company policy but the LAW, that they cannot disclose that information to anyone but the customer, and they need to confirm at least your full name but often at least 1 other point of ID, whether that be DOB or address. Also doing third party searches including looking in White Pages etc for neighbours and relatives, is again, completely LEGAL and ABOVE BOARD. You might not like it, but if you didn't avoid them then they wouldn't have to do it. Either pay your debts before they go to a collection agency, or update them when you move, change your number, etc. You're bringing hell on yourself and your family by not doing this.

    Also, bankruptcy lasts for up to 10 years, you can never become the director of a company (for the span of your life, not just the bankruptcy period), it restricts your overseas travel, stops you from doing any borrowing, you lose all of your assets including your car, property, savings etc. Bankruptcy is NOT the easy or best option when you can work through your issues - it should be viewed as the last resort that it is and not anything else.

    Co-operate with collectors and your life won't be so hard.
  • Shirley
    March 17, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Came home to a message on the answering machine from this number, but asking me to call (02) 4908 7290 & rattled off a long reference no. Didn't say what it is regarding. If they can't be bothered telling me what it is regarding, I can't be bothered having to listen to the message several times in order to capture the reference no. Had to listen to it twice to get the 02 number. But I ignored that, rang back this number, they don't say the company name when you call them, you have to ask who you have reached. I told them if they want me to call back with a reference no they should leave business like messages telling me what the call is regarding. The only reason I rang back was because the message annoyed me. She said there are privacy issues - what frikkin privacy issues, they are calling me? She looked up my number & said it wasn't regarding me, they could be asking about somebody I might know. Well tell me who it is on the message & I will decide whether I want to call you. Privacy issues?
  • Get Real
    March 13, 2015
    Ringwood, Australia
    If someone cannot pay a debt to 'the original lender' then so be it - they propbably can't pay it full stop.
    If no paperwork or agreement was made with a third party like lion - why would you even entertain speaking to a complete stranger about your debts with them.

    Get stuffed Lion - you are complete fools preying on idiots.
  • Lion Hater
    February 19, 2015
    Debt Collector
    Brisbane, Australia
    For those being harassed by Lion, be aware they have a new number (02) 4911 8571. Also, they are not allowed to contact you via social media unless they are certain your social media account is not shared with anyone and is accessible only by you - basically rules out Facebook, as your Facebook page is shared by all your friends. If you are contacted via Facebook, they are in trouble. They also cannot harass you, threaten you, lie to you (saying they can take your possessions) or ask you to get someone else to pay your debt or for you to take out another loan to repay them. All these things Lion do, so why are they still allowed to operate? All of this information is available on the pages of very reputable organisation who are there to help you.

    So for any of you debt collectors out there who say you can ask people to take out loans or have other people pay their debts, maybe you should read the legislation and not the company policy manual.

    Also, paying off the debt collectors is not going to magically fix your credit rating - your default will still remain there for 5 years. So if you have a default from 2013, it will be there until 2018 even if it is noted as 'settled" on your report.

  • Nonsense Talks
    February 13, 2015
    Debt Collector
    Brisbane, Australia
    That is nonsense, "Debt Collector". As soon as someone says, "give me your date of birth", everyone knows it is either a scam or a debt collector. We are not stupid. I agree with others on this site, you don't know who it really is as you cannot confirm their details - with all the scams going on, I would never give out or even confirm my date of birth over the phone. Write me a letter and I will answer it.

    Also, why are you answering a comment that is over 2 years old - read the rest of them.

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