Probably not the forum to use as it's virtually impossible to get this number..IE they DON'T disclose it, but.....(02) 6141 7161 is a number within the appalling Dept. of Human Services which is an Australian Fed Gov Dept that hides behind bureaucracy, intimidation, bullying, unfairness and non-accountability. Their calls are all made on private numbers unless you have a Cisco office phone network which shows private and ID Blocked numbers. The only # they disclose is 131272, they don't give you their direct line, or an email This # gives you some access to their private secretive world. USE IT!! Abuse the crap out of them....