Starting a fresh investigation as I've been harassed by a mobile number for the last 2 weeks, I gave the phone to my mum to answer as I was busy getting ready for work. The first person she spoke with a gentleman going by the name of Nathan, to speak with me for a business matter & gave her a REF # & a 1300 722 974 # when I was to call back.
After researching the name of the company as I've never heard of them before, I was right with my suspicion that they are a scam.. I called the mobile number back & he answered the phone with ....Is this Vanessa?
Instantly I thought, he has my mobile #??!!
WTH.... His name was Theo, he wanted me to verify my date of birth & I refused, who are you? Everything become a little hot within the discussion, my mother jumped in as the phone was on speaker, advised them that this is a scam & we are not paying anything, reporting them to the ACCC & have now seeked profession advise from a real Debit Collector - A family friend, he advised that he has heard of them & has seen legitimate orders from this company.... so why is everything handled so inappropriately ? I'm making a complaint with Credit Ombudsman Service & speak with them...
the business is state mercantile but collects debts on behalf of panther finance. Caller: Panthers Finance
So they’re a debt collection company, I don’t owe sh*t I’m a year 8 in high school I don’t even have any credit under my name. This was the mobile number they called me on 0480 092 761, I left it to ring and they left me an automated voicemail msg, all it said was 1300 722 974.
Here are their other 'ghost' phone numbers. Add them to your block list.
0466 710 697
0431 167 821
0435 695 387
0490 071 514
0432 268 463
0411 215 934
0435 928 764
0478 134 857
0431 262 569
0412 572 031
0422 206 541
Dont ever answer the phone with your name when an unknown number calls. Always ask who is calling and who they represent. If they give you the 'under australian law...' blah blah then hang up immediately. A time will come when Panthera no longer has any right to the debts they paid pennies on the dollar to obtain.
In response to "THE BEST AROUND" - Go f*@k yourself, you're scum of the earth, lower than pond scum - get a real job you absolute piece of s*@t! had enough of there phone calls and when you ring back they wont answer. Panthera along with numerous other debt collecting agencies fraudulently make claims against statute barred debt (the debt has expired and is not able to be legally collected unless you consent) I suggest filing a criminal charge against the owners (as Principals, the officers, employees and third party agents).
The charge would be "Attmepting to obtain financial advantage by deception" or Obtaining financial advantage by deception" beach of privacy etc
Great post...what you can also do is look for the number they called you on if you miss the call and it goes to voicemail (just make sure the missed call is at around the same time as your voicemail)...then block the number they called you on. Easy to do on an iPhone, here's a video that shows you how to do it in less than 20 seconds. I'm sure there are videos for all other phones.
I got a call from someone tonight from their office. I think it was Bree or Corina (also couldn't make out the name) who called me from 0490 071 514 but left a message to call her back on 1300 722 974. So if you're getting calls from them you could also block that mobile number because they use it so you can't reverse look up the mobile and they probably know that this webpage reveals who owns the 1300 number. So blocking both makes sense.
I was recently contacted by Panthera about a matter that wasn't concerning to me, when I asked who am I speaking to they would not give any information the business name or ABN, This company is just dodgy seeking personal information. When I called their office back they made a bunch of excuses as to why they called me but they called a number regardless of the do not call registry. I am looking forward to going to their office to hash it out with them. a BIG THANKYOU to the poster who provided all those details it has come in handy My name is Jess, I'm 19 and I'm really struggling with Panthera Finance at the moment, I would appreciate it if you read this until the end and offer up any advice to dealing with them! I know that this post is pretty old, but I have been dealing with Panthera Finance for a fair while now following some confusion with Optus at the beginning of 2015 and after yet another phone call with them today, I decided to do some quick research on them to see what came up as they dealt with me pretty terribly today and I wanted to see if anybody else was having/ has had a similar experience.
So at the start of last year, I moved to Alice Springs for my gap year and I did not get any service on my Optus mobile where I was living, so I called to cancel my plan and they said that I would not have to pay the remainder of my plan since it was a fault of theirs, as long as I sent them my mobile device. It took some time to get the mobile to them (as I did not receive the return package they said they would send me - so I called and asked them to send it again), but they confirmed some time last year that they have received the mobile.
In that time, I got letters from Optus saying that I owed a bit over $400. I ignored these as I knew they were still waiting for my mobile to arrive. I continued to not worry about these letters as I knew that they had received my mobile device.
For, what I assume must be a misunderstanding, this 'debt' was passed onto Panthera Finance (PF). Since then, I have been in contact with both PF and Optus and explained my situation many (many, many, many etc.) times to both parties. Every time Optus has told me that they will set the account to $0 and every time I explained this to PF they explain that they have no evidence that I do not owe this money - and that even if my account with Optus is at $0, I still owe them the odd $400, and that they need it in writing from Optus that I don't, nor did I ever owe the money. I can't even count how many times I have called Optus and PF over this, just going in circles and not sorting anything out - and everytime PF has tried to get me to pay the $400, and every time I have asked them to give me more time to sort it out with Optus. It has been frustrating, but I have always kept an open mind - I understand why they wouldn't believe me when all they have is my word.
I spoke to PF a couple of weeks ago, I was on the phone with a woman, who was being, for the most part, compliant. I told her that I wanted to try and get in writing, from Optus, a letter or email, or anything really, explaining that I don't owe the money - she eventually let me go and I called Optus and the woman I spoke to read out the email that she was going to send to them, it seemed fine and I thought after a year and a half of being hassled for money I don't owe, it would be over.
Today, I got a call from PF, which went from 0 to 100 very quickly. I gave the guy on the phone my little spiel about what had happened when he suddenly told me (again) that I need to pay the $400. I told him that I still didn't understand why this is happening and why I'm being forced to have to pay something that I don't even owe. He ignored me completely, his response to my question was "Will you be paying Visa, MasterCard or Paypal?" and I was a little bit appalled by this somewhat immature response. I kept on with my story, but at this point he was getting angry and telling me I have to pay or he will take this case to management and it is at risk of escalating further. Honestly, I found being spoken to like this to be quite confronting. There wasn't a lot I could do or say to make him stop what was more or less a step away from yelling at me down the phone. Even if I did owe this money (which I'm still certain I don't), I did not think that it was appropriate to be spoken to this way. I was so over it, I was ready to just find a way to pay the $400 and get PF out of my life for good. I am 19, a uni student and work part time as a waitress - paying for food, fuel and rent whilst studying is hard, but I manage. But $400 is not something I could swing during that phone call. My plan was to ask my Mum to loan me the money. All I had to do was hang up, call her and then call them back. When I mentioned the idea of hanging up to sort something out, he simply told me that if I hang up he will forward my case to management and it will ruin my credit history and blah blah blah... At this point I was in tears, I was pleading with him to give me a few hours to call them back. He told me, very angrily, "Jessica, we have been over this a million times before, you have never called back to pay and you need to pay right now or I will be taking your case to management". I told him that not once have I said that I would pay the money, but I promised to call back. He was determined to pry the money out of me - paying in full, paying amounts weekly, taking my card details and taking the money out in 2 weeks time. He just wasn't letting me hang up. In the end, angrily through my tears, I told him that I just don't care what he does - he can take my case to management if he wants. He then told me "Fine. Thankyou for calling, have a nice day" but I hung up before he could even finish that sentence. I went to call my Mum, but she didn't answer, so I called Optus again and asked to speak to somebody in their finance department, and that particular person has told me they will contact PF and tell them to set that account to $0. Honestly, I have heard similar things before so I'm not necessarily excited about the outcome as I don't believe it's over. I'm sure they will call again, I'm sure they will be annoyed and angry with me, when I know I don't deserve it and it's getting harder and harder to stand my ground and I don't really know what to do anymore... If anybody has any advice I would appreciate it SO much!!
Have had similar happen to me. I ignore it all and no more gets done, Simple.
Is the paper work from the courts or the collector as there is a big difference.
I received a call from them and it was actually a debr with Certegy i had forgotten.
The guy i spoke to was friendly and understanding and i was placed onto a payment arrangement with no hassles.
Not always are debt collectors bad.
reply to anonymous.
Yes, I hate the deadbeats too, I pay tax and therefore peoples centrelink cheques while they bludgeon.
Yes everyone had to work. YET it is your choice to be in that industry, then you choose the crap that comes with it. It's like a garbage man complaining about the smell. You don't like it. Go elsewhere. Flip a burger buddy.
They say I have 4 different debts so I arranged payments , I recently lost my job so im now on Centre link , I filled a financial hardship form to hold payments untill I get another job, they agreed thats fine , algood for two weeks then I recieved my second centrelink payment and I was $60 short they , got a bank statement and before I got paid it showed they tried taking money ,60 dollars of bank charges , unortherised transactions , and now getting harrased daily and they are still trying to withdrawl my account , last week I couldnt do a grocery shop because of this , im going down to bank today to block them Caller: Panthera Finance / State Merchantile
I received a phone call from them, they did not disclose who they were, just used my name and asked if I had lived in a certain suburb. They said they had a Parcel for me.
Then they asked me if I was born in a certain month and had owned a business by a certain name. When I said no to that they said they must have the wrong person and hung up. It sounded like a scammer and they lied about the purpose of the call. I googled the number and found all these interesting comments. I have no outstanding debts so they had better not call back.
THEY ARE FRAUDSTERS...AND HIGHLY ABUSIVE..they do not know what is to be wrong....they attack, harassed..threatens,..menaces...arranges meetings with the POLICE...and invent all the lies they can to get you into trouble...they came after me..and I never met them..never spoken to them..and yet..they had my address...telephone no...and a fake date of birth...more to it...they had my signatures...all faked and one by them....at first they'd told me that I had accounts with the CB...to about huge amounts of money..i went to see them the CB..and they never heard of me let alone having an account with them...then after a while I received another account from an electricity major to which I also owed them loads of money and never paid...then the tickets...the letters...the harassments...the threats...menaces...came on and again..and they also involved the Melb Court's registrars..on both accounts....and Victoria police...where fore they investigated and suspended the sergeant and their proofs of identities...which were all faked..and never signed anything...on this..they wouldn't let me have what was it all about...however, the stuff of them came down cracking when they saw for themselves...that I could very easily sue them for fraud. faked witnesses....and faked signatures....what the PANTHERA'S FINANCES do is just that...they get info from the other side...and then they'd go for you not caring for the others peoples positions....they would lie...and harass you through phones calls...through personal attachments..they will portrayed as anything...and all this time..they were victims of the other people....so please report and let people see how they are...and why they are so abusive... Has rang multiple time a week for months. Clearly if i had a debt id get something via every other communication method companies make you provide these days. Caller: Panthera Finance
Keep ringing for a debt for someone I dont know - I dont answer the phone anymore and block all numbers; interestingly Panthera are currently being taken to court by the ACCC for illegal practices in recovering monies and in using unlawful tactics, pressure etc in pursuing individuals; I am waiting for the outcome and may sue them myself as they are harrassing me continually for no reason.
Caller: 0480 092 761
Have several messages to please call Sarah Finance on this number 1300 722 974), but don't leave a message what it is regarding. I don't bother calling - gather they don't know I work for a legal firm.
Caller: Panthera Finance
If you have a genuine debt (Some businesses pad/inflate the bill before selling it to a debt collector.), pay them directly. Tell Panthera Finance, you didn't sign anything from Panthera Finance and owe them nothing. Also, you didn't buy anything from them and you won't give them money.
Remember, control the conversation by talking about your actions, don't answer their questions.
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