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Posted on July 29, 2012Caller type: Unknown
Location: Australia
Mr Swords sought the assistance of the Mid-Western Regional Council to have the ban on camping at the showground. This was designed to have the campers re-locate to his caravan park.
Ironically it now seems that the very people, the majority of the Council, have now, in an indirect way now done a complete turn-around on Mr Swords.
Below is a the storey as it appeared in the Mudgee Guardian. Take not of the comments made by the Mudgee Mayor who stated,"the issue was a trival matter whipped up by social media"
Even better is the comment by Clr John Weatherley who stated, “We don’t want them here." This statement was in reference to caravanners/RV's and campers.
Well done Mr Swords, it would appear now that you have indeed done jsut that, fallen on your own sword.
Mid-Western Regional Council has rejected calls to remove limits on camping at the Mudgee Showground, describing travellers who have threatened to boycott the town as “whingers” and “unreasonable.”
Council last week rejected a move from Cr John Webb, Cr Russell Holden, Cr Esme Martens and Cr Percy Thompson to rescind its decision to allow camping at the showground only when town caravan parks are full, or in association with events held there.
Council adopted the policy last month after caravan park owners complained that the council-managed showground should not compete with privately owned businesses.
The decision brought an angry response from the caravanning community, with some threatening to bypass Mudgee rather than being forced to pay for caravan park facilities that self-contained travellers do not need.
The Land and Property Management Authority subsequently advised that a development application was required for camping not associated with showground events.
Council last week passed a development application which will allow it to implement the policy adopted in June.
The development application allows up to 25 camping sites to be used at any one time, the maximum the current sites can cater for. Council will also upgrade firefighting equipment at the ground at a cost of $9200.
Showground management committee chairman John Webb said council’s decision was doing the region’s image “no good at all”.
“[The showgrounds] are providing a service,” he said. “A lot of people just won’t go to a caravan park - they will just park on the road.
“We have had an incident where a person unable to use the showgrounds parked on the street because he would not go to a caravan park.”
You can’t expect to have a budget and then turn around and cut off one of the arms of income.
Cr Russell Holden, also a member of the showground management committee, said as a result of concern over the viability of the showground, council had put together a management plan which included a budget allocation for camping.
“When the new showground management committee was in place, we believed we needed to demonstrate the committee could work to budget,” he said, adding that the only promotion of showground camping was by word of mouth.
“You can’t expect to have a budget and then turn around and cut off one of the arms of income.”
Cr Holden said caravan park owner Brett Swords had never asked to stop camping at the showground, only requesting that the showground operate on a level playing field with commercial parks.
“All he asked is that we charge the same price and all this has escalated,” Cr Holden said.
But Cr John Weatherley reiterated his view that it was “utterly wrong that council own a caravan park, lease it for a considerable amount of money and then set up in opposition by establishing a fixed caravan park.”
“I am not here to represent a small number of people who are too miserly to pay more at legal caravan parks so they can get it cheaper at the showgrounds and who trash the town,” he said.
“We don’t want them here.
“You are responding to a small number of unreasonable people trying to dictate to us what we do.”
Mayor Des Kennedy said the issue was a trival matter whipped up by social media.
“[Showground] revenue from camping over the last few years would be negligible,” he said.
“It’s an illegal activity that isn’t allowed whether you like it or not.”
Cr Kennedy also dismissed claims travellers would bypass Mudgee.
“They’ll come to Mudgee because it’s the best town in the state,” he said.
While opposing the rescission motion, Cr Peter Shelley questioned whether the development consent now in place would accommodate caravans associated with the Mudgee Show.
Council was told up to 300 side side alley and ring competitors were involved with the show.
“If Mudgee Show won’t take many, they are more than welcome at Rylstone Showground,” Cr Shelley said.
“When the new showground management committee was in place, we believed we needed to demonstrate the committee could work to budget,” he said, adding that the only promotion of showground camping was by word of mouth.
“You can’t expect to have a budget and then turn around and cut off one of the arms of income.”
Cr Holden said caravan park owner Brett Swords had never asked to stop camping at the showground, only requesting that the showground operate on a level playing field with commercial parks.
“All he asked is that we charge the same price and all this has escalated,” Cr Holden said.
But Cr John Weatherley reiterated his view that it was “utterly wrong that council own a caravan park, lease it for a considerable amount of money and then set up in opposition by establishing a fixed caravan park.”
“I am not here to represent a small number of people who are too miserly to pay more at legal caravan parks so they can get it cheaper at the showgrounds and who trash the town,” he said.
“We don’t want them here.
“You are responding to a small number of unreasonable people trying to dictate to us what we do.”
Mayor Des Kennedy said the issue was a trival matter whipped up by social media.
“[Showground] revenue from camping over the last few years would be negligible,” he said.
“It’s an illegal activity that isn’t allowed whether you like it or not.”
Cr Kennedy also dismissed claims travellers would bypass Mudgee.
“They’ll come to Mudgee because it’s the best town in the state,” he said.
While opposing the rescission motion, Cr Peter Shelley questioned whether the development consent now in place would accommodate caravans associated with the Mudgee Show.
Council was told up to 300 side side alley and ring competitors were involved with the show.
“If Mudgee Show won’t take many, they are more than welcome at Rylstone Showground,” Cr Shelley said.
“When the new showground management committee was in place, we believed we needed to demonstrate the committee could work to budget,” he said, adding that the only promotion of showground camping was by word of mouth.
“You can’t expect to have a budget and then turn around and cut off one of the arms of income.”
Cr Holden said caravan park owner Brett Swords had never asked to stop camping at the showground, only requesting that the showground operate on a level playing field with commercial parks.
“All he asked is that we charge the same price and all this has escalated,” Cr Holden said.
But Cr John Weatherley reiterated his view that it was “utterly wrong that council own a caravan park, lease it for a considerable amount of money and then set up in opposition by establishing a fixed caravan park.”
“I am not here to represent a small number of people who are too miserly to pay more at legal caravan parks so they can get it cheaper at the showgrounds and who trash the town,” he said.
“We don’t want them here.
“You are responding to a small number of unreasonable people trying to dictate to us what we do.”
Mayor Des Kennedy said the issue was a trival matter whipped up by social media.
“[Showground] revenue from camping over the last few years would be negligible,” he said.
“It’s an illegal activity that isn’t allowed whether you like it or not.”
Cr Kennedy also dismissed claims travellers would bypass Mudgee.
“They’ll come to Mudgee because it’s the best town in the state,” he said.
While opposing the rescission motion, Cr Peter Shelley questioned whether the development consent now in place would accommodate caravans associated with the Mudgee Show.
Council was told up to 300 side side alley and ring competitors were involved with the show.
“If Mudgee Show won’t take many, they are more than welcome at Rylstone Showground,” Cr Shelley said.
Ironically it now seems that the very people, the majority of the Council, have now, in an indirect way now done a complete turn-around on Mr Swords.
Below is a the storey as it appeared in the Mudgee Guardian. Take not of the comments made by the Mudgee Mayor who stated,"the issue was a trival matter whipped up by social media"
Even better is the comment by Clr John Weatherley who stated, “We don’t want them here." This statement was in reference to caravanners/RV's and campers.
Well done Mr Swords, it would appear now that you have indeed done jsut that, fallen on your own sword.
Mid-Western Regional Council has rejected calls to remove limits on camping at the Mudgee Showground, describing travellers who have threatened to boycott the town as “whingers” and “unreasonable.”
Council last week rejected a move from Cr John Webb, Cr Russell Holden, Cr Esme Martens and Cr Percy Thompson to rescind its decision to allow camping at the showground only when town caravan parks are full, or in association with events held there.
Council adopted the policy last month after caravan park owners complained that the council-managed showground should not compete with privately owned businesses.
The decision brought an angry response from the caravanning community, with some threatening to bypass Mudgee rather than being forced to pay for caravan park facilities that self-contained travellers do not need.
The Land and Property Management Authority subsequently advised that a development application was required for camping not associated with showground events.
Council last week passed a development application which will allow it to implement the policy adopted in June.
The development application allows up to 25 camping sites to be used at any one time, the maximum the current sites can cater for. Council will also upgrade firefighting equipment at the ground at a cost of $9200.
Showground management committee chairman John Webb said council’s decision was doing the region’s image “no good at all”.
“[The showgrounds] are providing a service,” he said. “A lot of people just won’t go to a caravan park - they will just park on the road.
“We have had an incident where a person unable to use the showgrounds parked on the street because he would not go to a caravan park.”
You can’t expect to have a budget and then turn around and cut off one of the arms of income.
Cr Russell Holden, also a member of the showground management committee, said as a result of concern over the viability of the showground, council had put together a management plan which included a budget allocation for camping.
“When the new showground management committee was in place, we believed we needed to demonstrate the committee could work to budget,” he said, adding that the only promotion of showground camping was by word of mouth.
“You can’t expect to have a budget and then turn around and cut off one of the arms of income.”
Cr Holden said caravan park owner Brett Swords had never asked to stop camping at the showground, only requesting that the showground operate on a level playing field with commercial parks.
“All he asked is that we charge the same price and all this has escalated,” Cr Holden said.
But Cr John Weatherley reiterated his view that it was “utterly wrong that council own a caravan park, lease it for a considerable amount of money and then set up in opposition by establishing a fixed caravan park.”
“I am not here to represent a small number of people who are too miserly to pay more at legal caravan parks so they can get it cheaper at the showgrounds and who trash the town,” he said.
“We don’t want them here.
“You are responding to a small number of unreasonable people trying to dictate to us what we do.”
Mayor Des Kennedy said the issue was a trival matter whipped up by social media.
“[Showground] revenue from camping over the last few years would be negligible,” he said.
“It’s an illegal activity that isn’t allowed whether you like it or not.”
Cr Kennedy also dismissed claims travellers would bypass Mudgee.
“They’ll come to Mudgee because it’s the best town in the state,” he said.
While opposing the rescission motion, Cr Peter Shelley questioned whether the development consent now in place would accommodate caravans associated with the Mudgee Show.
Council was told up to 300 side side alley and ring competitors were involved with the show.
“If Mudgee Show won’t take many, they are more than welcome at Rylstone Showground,” Cr Shelley said.
“When the new showground management committee was in place, we believed we needed to demonstrate the committee could work to budget,” he said, adding that the only promotion of showground camping was by word of mouth.
“You can’t expect to have a budget and then turn around and cut off one of the arms of income.”
Cr Holden said caravan park owner Brett Swords had never asked to stop camping at the showground, only requesting that the showground operate on a level playing field with commercial parks.
“All he asked is that we charge the same price and all this has escalated,” Cr Holden said.
But Cr John Weatherley reiterated his view that it was “utterly wrong that council own a caravan park, lease it for a considerable amount of money and then set up in opposition by establishing a fixed caravan park.”
“I am not here to represent a small number of people who are too miserly to pay more at legal caravan parks so they can get it cheaper at the showgrounds and who trash the town,” he said.
“We don’t want them here.
“You are responding to a small number of unreasonable people trying to dictate to us what we do.”
Mayor Des Kennedy said the issue was a trival matter whipped up by social media.
“[Showground] revenue from camping over the last few years would be negligible,” he said.
“It’s an illegal activity that isn’t allowed whether you like it or not.”
Cr Kennedy also dismissed claims travellers would bypass Mudgee.
“They’ll come to Mudgee because it’s the best town in the state,” he said.
While opposing the rescission motion, Cr Peter Shelley questioned whether the development consent now in place would accommodate caravans associated with the Mudgee Show.
Council was told up to 300 side side alley and ring competitors were involved with the show.
“If Mudgee Show won’t take many, they are more than welcome at Rylstone Showground,” Cr Shelley said.
“When the new showground management committee was in place, we believed we needed to demonstrate the committee could work to budget,” he said, adding that the only promotion of showground camping was by word of mouth.
“You can’t expect to have a budget and then turn around and cut off one of the arms of income.”
Cr Holden said caravan park owner Brett Swords had never asked to stop camping at the showground, only requesting that the showground operate on a level playing field with commercial parks.
“All he asked is that we charge the same price and all this has escalated,” Cr Holden said.
But Cr John Weatherley reiterated his view that it was “utterly wrong that council own a caravan park, lease it for a considerable amount of money and then set up in opposition by establishing a fixed caravan park.”
“I am not here to represent a small number of people who are too miserly to pay more at legal caravan parks so they can get it cheaper at the showgrounds and who trash the town,” he said.
“We don’t want them here.
“You are responding to a small number of unreasonable people trying to dictate to us what we do.”
Mayor Des Kennedy said the issue was a trival matter whipped up by social media.
“[Showground] revenue from camping over the last few years would be negligible,” he said.
“It’s an illegal activity that isn’t allowed whether you like it or not.”
Cr Kennedy also dismissed claims travellers would bypass Mudgee.
“They’ll come to Mudgee because it’s the best town in the state,” he said.
While opposing the rescission motion, Cr Peter Shelley questioned whether the development consent now in place would accommodate caravans associated with the Mudgee Show.
Council was told up to 300 side side alley and ring competitors were involved with the show.
“If Mudgee Show won’t take many, they are more than welcome at Rylstone Showground,” Cr Shelley said.
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Ian Ramsay
Posted on June 15, 2012Caller type: Unknown
Location: Australia
Allow me to quote from Mudgee Guardian 11 June 2012.
Quote: Camping at the Mudgee Showgrounds will be restricted after a tourist park operator objected to a proposal to upgrade the ground’s facilities for short-term camping and caravans.
Quote Mr Brett Swords: “He said upgrading facilities for short-term camping at the showgrounds would be uneconomical, as most of the tourist parks’ income came from cabins and long-term tenants.”
The Council meeting held 6 June 2012 Council voted against the proposal to upgrade the showground facilities based on Mr Swords objection.
The issue revolved around short-term. I stress the wording, short-term.
However Mr Swords the owner/operator Mudgee Tourist and Van Resort claims that this proposal to upgrade the facilities would affect his business.
An interesting comment Mr Swords when you have clearly stated that, ” as most of the tourist parks’ income came from cabins and long-term tenants.”
Mr Swords would you care to explain the difference between short-term and long-term tenants?
We are talking about campers and caravanners who are in fact short-term residents.
I have now seem a blog that features this story in a US site so it is more than evident that this story is rapidly gaining momentum.
I do feel for the small business operators in Mudge as they I feel have now become the innocent victims in Mr Swords cause.
From my research I have found that there are three caravan parks in Mudgee. Is’nt it interesting that the other two did not raise any objections.
I have posted several blogs to this story on the Mudgee Guardian web site and I have tried to draw Mr Swords into the debate to allow him the opportunity to present his case however to date I have had no response.
I have also emailed Mr Swords to his business email extending to him an invitation to respond to my comments and likewise so far I have received no response.
I will continually update on this site and the Mudgee Guardian as to if and when Mr Swords is prepared to respond.